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"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech) 11/21/2017 at 16:06 • Filed to: Black Series

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Just another boring, everyday car. Nothing special.

E90M3 > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:09

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Ouch! My Wallet!

450X_FTW > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:10

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Looks like your average workload to add wiper fluid for a Merc.

Nauraushaun > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:13

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Is that one o’ them thurr fancy-pants blacks?

Discerning > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:18

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What’s the story behind tearing apart the top end???

arl > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:19

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Man, that engine bay looks pristine.

atfsgeoff > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:20

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Dem Cams

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > Discerning 11/21/2017 at 16:22

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Probably had to change a headlight bulb.

#GermanEngineering

boredalways > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:25

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I want to walk in to shop and do exactly why you never let people walk into the shop:

OOH, WHAT’S THAT!?

OOH, WHAT’S THAT!?

OOH, WHAT’S THAT!?

OOH, WHAT’S THAT!?

Decay buys too many beaters > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:31

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Ahh, the Mercedes oil change.

fintail > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:32

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Head bolt?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > 450X_FTW 11/21/2017 at 16:32

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Cabin filter needs to be removed to add washer fluid on this car. Apparently washer fluid is superfluous on a Black.

Future next gen S2000 owner > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:34

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Looks pretty silver to be black..........

I’ll see myself out.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Discerning 11/21/2017 at 16:34

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Owner wanted head bolts replaced preventatively and insisted on doing head gaskets at the same time. Original head bolts on the first couple years of these were a known issue, they would break at the bolt head and relieve tension on the gasket. So coolant and oil would mix, or coolant would go into a cylinder.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > boredalways 11/21/2017 at 16:35

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AMGtech - now with more recalls! > E90M3 11/21/2017 at 16:36

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Over 15

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Nauraushaun 11/21/2017 at 16:36

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Yup. Look at the post tag 

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > arl 11/21/2017 at 16:37

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Excellent maintenance history, very particular and savvy owner, low miles.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > atfsgeoff 11/21/2017 at 16:38

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Are wearing out. Time for new ones!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Decay buys too many beaters 11/21/2017 at 16:39

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Blinker fluid flush actually. The blinker fluid has an external cooler and the pump for it mounts under the intake manifold.

Discerning > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 16:39

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Kind of surprised that AMG goofed on the head bolts. Seems like an unusual place to cut corners.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Discerning 11/21/2017 at 16:40

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I think it was more of the supplier screwing up the metallurgy.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > fintail 11/21/2017 at 16:42

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Yeah. Though no actual failure yet. He just wanted it done to prevent a future issue. Three were looking pretty rough, cams just starting to show a bit of wear, and two cam adjusters have a bit of play. So he’s buying all new cams, lifters, and adjusters to compliment the head gasket and bolt replacement.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > E90M3 11/21/2017 at 16:46

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Oh, and when you finally decide to buy a C63, make sure it has black plastic valve covers so that you don’t have to worry about the engine.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:00

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This, for some reason, looks more expensive than my upcoming engine out service

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 11/21/2017 at 17:05

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Probably is. We might do a little extra to this at the same time. Total bill is currently around 15, might be around 20 by the time we’re done.

RPM esq. > Decay buys too many beaters 11/21/2017 at 17:09

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I just had one and the pain is real.

450X_FTW > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:14

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Well it’s German wiper fluid so you know it’s good

Step 26: remove motor mount to access washer fluid cap

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:21

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That seems about right for basically a top end rebuild on limited production car. It’s always nice to see owners of nice cars be proactive with the maintenance.

RPM esq. > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:29

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Here is a handy photo reference. First, the Correct C63 Engine To Buy, as photographed in my driveway. Please note black plastic valve covers (post-head bolt issue build) and dark gray intake manifold (performance package engine).

Now, here is the Wrong C63 Engine To Buy, as found on the internet. Note the silver valve covers (boo) and lighter intake manifold (hiss).

cmill189 - sans Volvo > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:35

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I enjoyed this post and your comments within.

DipodomysDeserti > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:37

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“Excellent maintenance history, very particular and savvy owner, low miles.”

And yet...here we are.

E90M3 > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 17:37

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This is good to know. I’m trying to get back into the oil industry right now, so me getting an AMG might happen sometime soon. I’m sure if I’m in the market I’ll ask you what to look for.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > RPM esq. 11/21/2017 at 17:41

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Exactly!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > DipodomysDeserti 11/21/2017 at 17:42

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No failure. Just wanted to prevent the possibility of one in the future.

fintail > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 18:15

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All I see are $$$$$ - hitting 5 figures?

Liam Farrell > RPM esq. 11/21/2017 at 18:39

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What is this madness

RPM esq. > Liam Farrell 11/21/2017 at 18:59

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Important consumer advice.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 19:06

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I hope you mean hundred. But of course you don’t.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > DipodomysDeserti 11/21/2017 at 19:10

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Bro, it’s a mere 15 grand of preventative maintenance. I mean what’s 15 grand these days anyway? Lint in pocket, I tell you hhhwat.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/21/2017 at 19:15

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Yeah definitely don’t mean hundred.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > fintail 11/21/2017 at 19:17

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Oh yes. Since posting, customer has decided to do some RennTech transmission software. Bill has exceeded 20k.

AestheticsInMotion > RPM esq. 11/21/2017 at 19:33

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16 liters of 0w-50 mixed in with unicorn tears and shredded Benjamin’s?

Rico > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 20:02

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Sounds like my kind of owner!

fintail > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 20:38

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He must really love the car, at least he’s working with something relatively rare and valuable.

RPM esq. > AestheticsInMotion 11/21/2017 at 20:43

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Apparently.

Nauraushaun > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 20:58

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OoooOOOoooOOOOh.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > RPM esq. 11/21/2017 at 21:04

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You’re about as subtle as I am tolerable

atfsgeoff > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 21:09

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After how many miles?

hike > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 21:24

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I imagine that’s still cheaper than the head bolt failure and a new motor!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/21/2017 at 21:25

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Like a brick through a window?

DipodomysDeserti > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/21/2017 at 21:25

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The best part is that whole car will only be worth $15k pretty soon.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > fintail 11/21/2017 at 21:27

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He does. Great guy. And to everyone else reading this, I liked him before he ever spent a dollar at my shop. First time I met him we talked about car stuff for a couple hours. Turns out he was feeling me out as a tech!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > hike 11/21/2017 at 21:29

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A lot of times, if you catch it in time, you can save the motor when the bolts fail. But yeah, a reman motor from Benz is up around 40k if memory serves.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > DipodomysDeserti 11/21/2017 at 21:29

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Still about the value of my 3 combined.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 21:30

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Precisely.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > atfsgeoff 11/21/2017 at 21:32

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You’re not supposed to ask that! 12k. The really aren’t that bad, just beginning to wear. They could probably go many more tens of thousands of miles before having any noticable symptoms. But early warning signs are there and he wants to take care of it before it’s a problem. Unfortunately it’s a known issue on early engines.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/21/2017 at 21:34

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I’ve tried being subtle. People just misunderstand. Which makes me want to put a brick through their window.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 22:07

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So I’m sure you’ve answered this a million times on here, but how is the reliability on the later 6.2L’s? My wife keeps bugging me about replacing my manual crossover an automatic sedan and for some reason my brain keeps interpreting that as E63. I think 2010 was he last year for before the turbo. I can certainly afford the car, but I’m not so sure I can (or want to) afford repairs if things go out.

atfsgeoff > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/21/2017 at 22:25

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Interesting. Design flaw?

RPM esq. > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/22/2017 at 00:13

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I’m beginning to suspect you may not be a real doctor.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > atfsgeoff 11/22/2017 at 03:19

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Heat treating issue I think.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 11/22/2017 at 03:24

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2010-2011 E63 are awesome, in every way, and very reliable (not just for an AMG). Those would be my personal choice. Those both have updated engines. I haven’t really seen any issues on the updated engines. RPM made a post in here showing the differences between early and late. Biggest costs involved with owning one will be brakes and tires. I’ll give you a more in depth run down if you get serious about one, and even check service history if you’re really serious and get me a VIN.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/22/2017 at 07:09

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Thanks! Not serious yet, but they’ve always tempted me. I’ve been a fan of MB V8’s since my aunt took 16 year old me for a ride in her brand new black on black W220 S430 in 2000. Ever since that and reading a C&D article about the W210 E55 around the same time I’ve always wanted a big V8 Benz.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 11/22/2017 at 10:32

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I had a similar experience with an XJR around that time. Still love them. But bought my 210 E55 instead because reliability, and well, I work for Benz!

fintail > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/22/2017 at 12:04

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Awesome. Just as it is great for a customer to have a good tech/shop (I have a good one here too), it is nice for the person doing the work to have a good/understanding customer.